As I sit in the Orange County Airport awaiting departure back home to Texas, I want to take a moment to say a special and very sincere THANK YOU to all of the wonderfully generous sponsors whose contributions helped make DBRFunFest, not only possible, but incredibly memorable.

One of the great things I found in this ‘unconference’ was the unique relationship building it fostered, as opposed to selling.  No one was there to sell anything.  Yet I made some great connections and already have plans to engage with several folks and companies I had the chance to spend time with over the 4-day weekend in Dana Point.

In what amounts to essentially a weekend-long party where no one is selling, one might wonder what’s in it for everyone, particularly those who sponsored.  I can only tell you that I came to Dana Point knowing many folks only as online acquaintances and in some cases friends, and left four days later feeling more like family.  So in answer to that question, I will leave you with another more poignant, which is, “what’s the ROI of your mother?”

Thank you again to all of the sponsors.  A few I have not worked with before but most I have and here I want to toast each of them, and share a bit about some of my own personal experience.

thank you

Go Daddy, Platinum Sponsor Go Daddy:  A few of us were commenting over the weekend about how we used to hate Go Daddy, but how things have really come around 180.  When I first started out six or so years ago, I would register my domains anywhere but GoDaddy. Now they’re the primary registrar I choose to house the majority of my portfolio.  I used to despise their support, and now I have not had a bad support experience with them in several years.  Their Premium Domains sales channel is what initially won me back, but the ease of domain management/admin and support have kept me there.

thank you

Rook Media - Platinum Sponsor

Rook Media was recently covered in a DNJournal cover story and is a company with quite a bit of interesting background.  Although domain parking doesn’t constitute even a modest portion of my domaining income, I have tested out Rook Media in the past on a handful of domains that weren’t monetizing at all on other providers and was pleased to find some of the domains getting clicks and making money there.

thank you

Parking Crew - Platinum Sponsor

While I havn’t used Parking Crew before, I know others who have and have heard good things about them.  Since I don’t own a high traffic portfolio, and most of my revenue is made on resale rather than parking, there are still a lot of platforms I haven’t worked with yet.  This is one, but I really appreciated their sponsorship nonetheless.

thank you

Escrow.com - Gold Sponsor

Escrow.com is still the only online escrow service I’ve used over the years, and remains so today.  Simple and reliable, just the way it should be. What else can I say?  I really enjoyed talking with Brandon Abbey and Andee Hill who made an appearance at the final wrap dinner.

thank you

Above.com - Silver Sponsor

Above.com is a company that optimizes parking performance by sending traffic to parking providers on a rotating basis according to what will perform the best for any given day/time/domain/etc, and I’ve written about them before.  They’ve recently launched a new domain marketplace and newsletter who’s layout I really like, and I’m planning to list some of my page rank domains for sale there shortly.

thank you

NameInnovations - Silver Sponsor

NameInnovations I’ve not had the chance to do business with but they specialize in domain investing, consulting and domain brokerage, and the owner Kevin is a great guy.

thank you

Morgan Linton - Bronze sponsor

DBRFunFest was the first I’ve met Morgan, and I wasn’t quite sure how I’d take to him in person.  Due to some other engagements he didn’t make it down until the Saturday night’s dinner.  I grabbed a chair next to him and struck up a conversation, and I have to say that I had so much fun talking with him and was so engaged in our conversation that before I knew it the entree had arrived and I still hadn’t taken a single bite of my salad yet, and maybe two sips of my soup if that.

thank you

Bobbleheads.com - Bronze sponsor

Warren Royal of Bobbleheads.com surprised and delighted everyone with some very special custom bobbleheads to present to attendees for take home and some for awards.  The bobbleheads really are remarkable in their level of detail.  Thanks again Warren, it was great to finally meet you as well.

thank you

Golden Knight Media - Bronze sponsor

Last but not least, is another company I’ve not had the pleasure of doing business with before: Golden Knight Media, a professional website development company owned by Charlotte (Charlie) Gilbert.

additional thank you’s

Anonymous donations toward the event were made by a couple Domain Boardroom members that wished to remain anonymous.   I know I speak for everyone in saying that we are all grateful for your very selfless donations, even if you couldn’t be there yourselves, you were there in spirit.

Thank you also to Bill Hartzer of Standing Dog Interactive, an internet marketing agency out of Dallas, for illuminating us with a deep-dive SEO keynote presentation that was very informative and entertaining.

Thanks also to Bob Olea of Domain Sales Plus and Kevin Allen of End User Marketing for all of the legwork in getting things organized (even though Kevin beat me heads up to win the 2013 poker tournament.  I’ll be back!)

Not to leave anyone out, the championship poker bracelet was courtesy of DomainAgents.  Tim Tams were provided by Jen and Mike of DomainGuardians.

And what timing, they are just calling my plane to board now after an hour delay.  Till next year!

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domain size

An age old question, does domain size matter?

Common wisdom holds that the shorter the domain, the better.  However there are some examples of very long domains that have sold in the past.

According to the DNSalePrice.com record of publicly listed domain sales, the longest domain names that have ever been reported sold contain 7 words, and there are four such sales on the books.

DNSalePrice also shows twenty-four 6-word domain sales on file. There is no record of any 8-word domains ever having sold.

If you know of any, or have sold a domain greater than 7 words, feel free to comment below.

Here is the list:

Domain | Sale Price | Date | Venue

ApartmentsForRentInNewYorkCity.com | $3,786 | Jan ’12 | Sedo

HowToMakeYourHairGrowFaster.com | $2,800 | Dec ’11 | Sedo

WhateverHappensInVegasStaysInVegas.com | $700 | Feb ’08 | Moniker/Traffic

InSearchOfABrilliantWhiteCloud | $1,000 | Feb ’08 | TDNAM

BONUS

Here’s the longest domain sale reported by length of characters, at 39.  It appears to be a German IDN.

Berufsunfähigkeitsversicherungvergleich.com | $6,864 | May ’11 | Sedo

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I’d like to share a situation I ran into today on a domain forum, that might help anyone new to domaining.

Recently I posted a thread in the ‘Domains Wanted’ sub-forum, and today I received a private message from a forum user there who had submitted two domains to me earlier in the week.  In the note to me today, this person indicated that they’d just registered the domains for me, and were frustrated that I’d failed to respond.

It appears that, after reviewing my wanted thread, they went off to hand-register a couple domains that met the minimum criteria of what I specified I was looking for, in hopes of a quick payday.

Unfortunately, as will already be clear to many, this is not a good approach, and in the long run I have no doubt will lose you more money than it will ever make.

I mentioned above that the domains they’d sent met my ‘minimum’ criteria.  Although I’d been very clear about specifying the types of domains I was looking for, this in no way means that I’m prepared to purchase every domain that falls under those guidelines.  I still aim to be as selective as possible with narrowing down my purchases from those that do.  I believe others would tell you the same.

On the flip side, over the years I’ve responded to many domains wanted postings myself and of all the domains I’ve ever submitted only a fraction have ever sold or received some confirmation of interest.  The bottom line is you never really know what a buyer might be looking for.  Sometimes the buyer does not even know exactly what they are looking for, until they find it.

Sadly, the person in this story probably wasted around $16, and is now stuck with a couple domains that will more than likely never sell.  Perhaps this person thought they were being entrepreneurial, taking a risk.  I can respect that.  I’ve certainly flopped down more than $16 before to experiment with some new idea to see just whether it would ‘work’, or not.

That brings us back to the reason for today’s post, which is to resolve the question ahead of time, for those newbies that may be contemplating this idea.  In my opinion it’s just not worth it.

If you disagree (or agree) feel free to comment.

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Did ICANN Launch It’s Trademark Clearinghouse Today?

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Bigfoot Sightings at WebFest Global Confirmed

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Voting For Domain Related Sessions At HostingCon 2013 Now Open

February 6, 2013

HostingCon, the largest annual web hosting industry conference, has just announced that registered attendees may now vote for which expert talks will be given over the duration of the show.  There are a few domain-related sessions proposed, whose abstracts are listed below. Companies behind the session proposals include NameMedia, OpenSRS (Tucows), ResellerClub, and LogicBoxes (Directi). [...]

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